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I've added this to the Ceqli Wiki:

As for sa, it has as its basic function keeping two gravor from combining into a compound,

but it can also function, indirectly, as a sort of possessive particle.

Go ten sa dom.  The I-have house, or, the house that I have, or my house.

This can be abbreviated to.

Go sa dom.  My house.

This also works with any other pronoun, name, or noun:

Janzo ten sa dom > Janzo sa dom

To xyen ten sa dom > To xyen sa dom

So sa is not a possessive particle technically, but can function as though it were.

As for pronunciation, sa is meant to be unstressed.  I've been in the habit of writing

it without a space, gosa, to ensure that, but I've been talked out of it, for the sake

of consistency, so sa should always have a space before it.

Cause and Because and Therefore, etc.

I currently have zay to mean "cause," in the Esperanto "igi" sense.  Post HERE.  Definitely a verbish sort of word, derived loosely from the English -ize ending. And now I'm thinking of the word "because," and what it should be in Ceqli.  Seems like a related meaning, doesn't it?  Not a verb at all, though, but more of a conjunction, or maybe a preposition.  If it's a conjunction, it really should have the pyuvor CV shape. Right now, with zay, you can say:

Ke go komvol beke zay ke go kom beke.

That's in full logical Ceqli, the kind a computer can understand. That is:

The-fact-that I'm hungry causes the-fact-that I eat.  Or,
Because I'm hungry, I eat.

The 'ke' begins a phrase, the 'beke' ends it.  So the phrases can be arguments of the 'zay.'

You can also use the reversal particle 'be' to reverse the zay:

Ke go kom beke bezay ke go komvol beke.

The-fact-that I eat is-caused-by the-fact-that I'm hungry.

And in terse Ceqli, the kind you use when you talk to people instead of robots, you have:

Go komvol, zay go kom.

I'm hungry, so I eat.

Go kom, bezay go komvol.

I eat because I'm hungry.

That works, but I find the word zay a little clunky.  That is, when you're asking the why questions, it gets a little awkward.

Ka zay zi kom?  Why do you eat?  What causes you to eat?

You can also say it this way:

Zi kom bezay ka?  You eat because of what?

Or, making a compound word:

Kabezay zi kom?  Why do you eat?

That last feels clunky.  So I'm thinking of abandoning zay, because reversing it with the spelling method to get zya leaves you with a sound combination that's hard to say and likely to turn into /Za/ or something, and using this combo instead:

kaw - to cause, kwa to be caused by

Then you could say:

Kakwa zi kom?  Why do you eat?

Go kom kwa go komvol.  I eat because I'm hungry.

Then, of course, you can have this conversation.

Bum on street:  Go komvol.  I'm hungry.

Seriously, that would give me the word for because and the word for so, or therefore.

You:  Kakaw?   So what?

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Pronunciation

I just updated the section on alphabet and pronunciation to deal with the special problems of proper name borrowings and the actual names of letters that aren't cwazim.  Check it out HERE.

The Imperative

The Ceqli imperative can be formed in various ways.  You can invite, order, insist, beg, etc.  It's all explained in Lesson 8.  Check it out HERE.

Pyuvor je Gravor

Ceqli grammar words (pyuvor) are in the shape CV, that is, one cwazim followed by one vawl.  See HERE.  Now, Ceqli regards the difference between Pyuvor and Gravor (content words) to be fuzzy, in keeping with the Gödel theory of linguistics.  So sometimes it's hard to decide which a given word should be.  Currently, Ceqli has ko and de, for to and from.

Go don hon ko zi.  I give a book to you.
Go pren hon de zi.  I take a book from you.

Now, other prepositions are gravor:

Go ziq ben zi.  I sing benefit you, or I sing for you.

Go dan cwaq dorm.  I in the bed sleep.

So why should to and from be any different?  Is it because they seem so much like case endings in my mind?  Or is it because, as lone verb/prepositions, they're hard to translate?  Or are they?

Go ko do.  I to the house.  Maybe it means I'm on my way to the house.
Go de Doycehaym.  I'm from Germany.

So, they don't seem to be any different from ben or dan or sur.  I propose, then, to replace ko/de with tsu/del.  Please give me feedback.

Lesson Seven Added

I've added Lesson Seven to the Ceqli Wiki.  It deals with Ceqli place structure as it is based on Loglan principles.

"Ceqli Through Pictures" Updated.

I just added 22 new panels to "Ceqli Through Pictures." A lot of it is about explaining kinship terms, which is pretty simple, Ceqli having fewer basic roots than most languages, but describing them clearly in what amounts to pantomime takes quite a bit of time and space.  Barazo and Samzo have a lot of relatives out there!  Also, I've gone through the basic numbers and terms for arithmetic.  Again, your comments are appreciated.